with me to try to get through this is joy-ann reid, managing editor of the grio.com. and political analyst and columnist the great eugene robinson. eugene, we have grown up watching basically back and forth. ever since ike and truman, it's been basically an eight-year thing. you get an eight-year run and people turn you out and try the other party. the republicans, this is my contention, have this almost, i don't mean it literally, monarchist notion, that somehow the executive belongs to them. >> they do like the executive, don't they? >> it's kind of part of what i call republican mythology that this is a center right country, therefore, someone from the center right or further right should be president of this country. now, i think that's silly on two grounds. number one, center is center, right, by definition. >> they're describing that 1950s. >> exactly. >> number two, i think while it's true more people say they're conservative an liberal, i think that's true ideologically but not operationally, not practically. practically, people, you know -- >> i'm with you. >